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Youth centre could make way for new facility

MALVERN'S youth centre could be demolished and replaced with a new facility.

Worcestershire County Council, which owns the youth centre in Albert Road North, and Malvern Hills College, sited next door, are exploring the possibility of a new centre.

A joint working party has been formed and met for the first time on Tuesday (March 11). It includes representatives of the college, the county council, local schools and the Learning and Skills Council (LSC).

The aim is to establish a new centre, which would act as a focal point for young people in Malvern.

College principal David Blades said it was entirely possible that the existing youth centre will be knocked down and replaced.

"It's certainly an option that's being considered. At this stage, we can't rule anything out," he said.

But he sought to reassure groups that use the centre that they would not be left out in the cold.

"We will be seeking to accommodate all existing users of the youth centre," he said. "We envisage a centre that is much bigger altogether.

"The community won't be losing anything. On the contrary, it will be getting a 21st-century facility to replace the ageing building which has a lot of problems."

The next step is for Malvern Hills College to submit a proposal to the LSC. Tuesday's meeting also agreed it will be important to hold extensive consultation with users to ensure that any new centre meets the needs of the community.

6:45pm Thursday 13th March 2008

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Posted by: Steve Price, Malvern on 7:27pm Thu 13 Mar 08
So, the question is; will there still be a usable music venue?
The present youthy is a bit of a dive but is ok as a venue and can hold about 400 people. As groups like the Fringe have no access to the Theatres to put bands on it is going to struggle if the youth centre is lost.
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 7:46pm Fri 14 Mar 08
The best news is that The Fringe will not be will not be able to put on a boring event for a while. We will have some relief from such garbage as Ozric Tentacles, Gong, some rubbish raggae band or any other drugged up nonsense that they think is "youth" entertainment. A peace will envelope Malvern and these old ageing middle class hippies will have to find somewhere else to dance around like stoned roosters that have just been castrated.
Keep the youth centre for the youth. Put grandad to bed.
Posted by: Castro Spendlove, Gt Malvern on 1:35am Sat 15 Mar 08
Hopefully any new performance area will be properly sound-proofed.
Posted by: Steve Price, Malvern on 3:14pm Sat 15 Mar 08
hornyold rd wrote:
The best news is that The Fringe will not be will not be able to put on a boring event for a while. We will have some relief from such garbage as Ozric Tentacles, Gong, some rubbish raggae band or any other drugged up nonsense that they think is "youth" entertainment. A peace will envelope Malvern and these old ageing middle class hippies will have to find somewhere else to dance around like stoned roosters that have just been castrated.
Keep the youth centre for the youth. Put grandad to bed.
ok Hornyold rd, you put on some entertainment that people will go to.
At least the Fringe get off their backsides and do something apart from moan about other peoples little pleasures.
If it wasn't for the middle class hippies in Malvern it would be be completely brain dead.
It is ok for the Theatres to put on fluff and un inspiring stuff, did you complain about that? The only music allowed is covers bands, nothing original apart from some safe Bill Wyman or going through the motions Van Morrison.
The Fringe puts on live acts that play their own material, it might not be to your tastes but unless you personally are going to step up and organise something then really you are just trying to wind people up with your rants.
The Fringe is NOT a youth entertainment organisation but youth turn up to the gigs, sometimes in large numbers.
I agree with Castro that the place should be soundproofed....so we can't hear the moaners having a moan....sorry.. yeh lets hope for some soundproofing, I think this is the one thing that has caused the most hassle over the years...
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 7:35pm Sat 15 Mar 08
This reply from Steve Price is purely defensive. Firstly he tries to have a go at the Theatre, because they are boring. Welcome to the real world Steve.
Then this lazy person tries to tell “ME” to organise some entertainment for Malvern because I criticise the Fringe for being hopeless...let me rephrase that, “rubbish and hopeless”. And years of it. Years and years.
Im not a promoter Price but the Fringe claims to be.
The best thing for Malvern is that the Fringe gives up and stops boring us to death.
Posted by: Steve Price, Malvern on 3:28pm Sun 16 Mar 08
hornyold rd wrote:
This reply from Steve Price is purely defensive. Firstly he tries to have a go at the Theatre, because they are boring. Welcome to the real world Steve.
Then this lazy person tries to tell “ME” to organise some entertainment for Malvern because I criticise the Fringe for being hopeless...let me rephrase that, “rubbish and hopeless”. And years of it. Years and years.
Im not a promoter Price but the Fringe claims to be.
The best thing for Malvern is that the Fringe gives up and stops boring us to death.
It would seem you have nothing useful or helpful to say and are obviously a wind up merchant.
I will carry on with the others trying to make Malvern a decent place with entertainment for all and not just the few and you can carry on making pointless comments.
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 9:13pm Mon 17 Mar 08
For some reason Mr. Price dishes out criticism of the Theatre continuously, yet when the Fringe is criticised Mr. Price call this “a wind up.”
It seems that Mr. Price can boast about how wonderful the Fringe yet when someone make a comment on how soporific The Fringe is, it is not appropriate.
It may be noted that this gentleman can not take criticism. Rather like a Tory , are we not Mr. Price? Would like to give me an A.S.B.O. or add a mosquito to my comments so I will go away until I decide that the Fringe is the cutting edge youth oriented organisation that you claim it is.
In the late seventies the fringe was forward thinking, it promoted quality broad minded events such as a night with Lyndon Kwesi Johnson and a show of the nearly great Jerry Sadowitz.
That was almost thirty years ago and since those days very little has been promoted that couldn't be described as utter hogwash.
It has become blazingly obvious that most events promoted by the fringe are only aimed at only slightly left of centre ageing liberal dullards who pat each other on the back for putting on another evening of the most tiresome bog-standard sleep induced narcosis possible.
Yet it is these “folk” that lay into the Theatre for being boring. Is this not a case of “the pot calling the kettle black”?
How I see it is that the are both sleeping in the same sorry bed of apathy, except that the Fringe (once great), year after year, spirals to an all time low. Its no wind up.
Another dub gig? Nooooooooooo........ Oh go on then, its for the youth.
Posted by: Steve Price, Malvern on 1:54pm Tue 18 Mar 08
oh dear, obviously not looked at the programme of events put on by the Fringe for some time then.
Including jazz, reggae, various classical stuff, rock of various sorts, lectures on various topics, theatre, bike races, cabaret and so on. I think that should be enough for most people to find something to enjoy. This year they hope to visit sheltered housing units to take some entertainment there. There was a youth gig the other week....etc etc.
You are a wind up merchant and deserve an ASBO, I would challenge you to organise something for your local community on a limited budget and have to deal with unwarranted criticisms from people who have nothing better to do with their time than blow hot air out of their fundament
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 7:18pm Tue 18 Mar 08
I am aware of the not so awe-inspiring, let us reach for the Valium, program of events of the Fringe of late.
Where did it all go wrong?
I hear feel people asking?
Where are the even slightly interesting activities?
Where is the inspiration.?
Where is the passion?
Am I too critical for this bohemian nonsense?
How about a clean sweep with a new broom?
Look at this...
What have these artists got in common?

Jack Dee, Eddie Izzard, Zion Train, K-Passa, Jeremy Hardy, Jo Brand, Roger McGough, Ian McMillan, Mark Lamarr, The Albion Band, Here and Now, Hattie Hayridge, Bhundu Boys, Groundhogs, Gong, Mad Professor, Sons of Arqua, Bang Bang Machine, Spacehoppa, John Cooper-Clarke, Linda Smith, Jon Hegley, Malvern Recorder Day, Celt Arabia, Garam Masala, Joolz, Malvern Millenium Day, Juicy Lucy, Gerry Sadowitz, Alchemy, Subterra, Amsterdam Loeki Stardust Quartet, Sons of Spock, Fred Zeppelin, Dubmerge, Piers Adams, Lil BRO, Whiteleaved Oak, Jenny Eclair, Pete Morgan, Brim & Ju, Swiss, Valerie Hewitt, Funky Junky Monkeys, Hills Poets, Chase String Quartet, Daevid Allen, Swing Driven Thing, Martin Thorne, Bandito Bandeko, Code of Silence, Tribal Scream, Bad Habits, Fleece, Voodoo Queens, Assassins, Caleb, Phil Claffy, Afrodizzyaks, Goyim, Headhunters, Goyim, Janets Cafe, Total Harmonic Confusion, etc, etc

They all played Malvern Fringe ‘before they were famous’.

What Lies!!

How can the Fringe claim to promote Gong before they where famous concluding that their height of fame was years before The Fringe was even invented, as with the Mad professor,The Albion Band, JCC, Rodger Mcgough, The Groundhogs and who is Phil Claffey?
Even so, the the original Fringe would have balked at putting on such retro claptrap.

Fun over and please, Fringe no more Tory style patting the back... Most of this list, from the fringe’s web site are events that happened sooooo long ago most have no recall, although it was a time when the Fringe was almost a viable idea.
I implore anyone to look at the latest events and find anything that inspires.

Posted by: Owen Morgan, Cowleigh Rd., Malvern on 9:00pm Tue 18 Mar 08
I would like to know who this individual in Hornyold Road is referring to as 'middle class'? I can assure you, sir, you canot be talking to me!

Owen Morgan
Secretary, Malvern Fringe.

Posted by: Steve Price, Malvern on 10:14pm Tue 18 Mar 08
Owen, just ignore it, this person appears to have a grudge against the Fringe for some reason, so it is better to just ignore the ranting. See you at the dub gig :)
Posted by: Castro Spendlove, Gt Malvern on 12:51pm Wed 19 Mar 08
What's the betting that there will be a 4th runway at Heathrow before Malvern gets a decent medium sized venue.

I'm also interested to know what The Fringe will do during the next 10 years while the planning process drags on.

I wonder if theres room for the 'new one' behind the college the we may be able to redirect performance noise away from the residents.

As for you Steve, and you Owen, I think that you and hornyold rd (silly name) should have a cup of tea and a nice sit down and thrash out your differences.

ie. 12X3 minute rounds. No gloves or knuckledusters.
Posted by: Boudumoon, Malvern, UK on 5:19pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Never trust a punk.

Of course without the Youth Centre and the Con Club we end up with no proper venues in Great Malvern whatever type of music we want to put on (and even I admit the Fringe has rather narrow tastes).

There's the 3 square feet of the Mount Pleasant Hotel but even doddery old proggers like Gong won't fit there.

Well perhaps we could all just put on our slippers and get our pipes out, sit down and relax like we're obviously supposed to be doing, saying (in a slightly northern accent): "You know what lad - I remember when all this were fields, and the Jam and SLF and the Specials and Spizz Energy played at the Winter Gardens. Them were the days lad, aye, them were the days".

Sound of heavy thud as I die of boredom.
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 6:22am Thu 20 Mar 08
Nice comment Boudumoon.
See you middle class narrow minded hippie elite ambassadors of boredom at the dub gig maaaan.......

Posted by: chocolate starfish, malvern on 6:02pm Thu 20 Mar 08
It appears that Fringe takes criticism badly. I would of thought they would applaud such freedom of speech.
Its about time someone became vocal about the direction that the Fringe follows these days.
How-ever calling them names such as smelly hippie and useless seem a little futile in the face of serious debate. If such insults are made I for one could not take such comments with the importance they should demand. Also may I state that the use of the word middle-class as an insult is not even funny. I myself am a member of the middle-class and I am proud of it.
Posted by: Steve Price, Malvern on 8:08pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I will say again, even if I sound boring, there is nothing preventing people getting involved with the Fringe and suggesting acts to put on, if it seems boring then it might just be your fault.
The organisation is run by volunteers who do work hard to put stuff on for the community.
Calling people names and assuming their class is very silly.
I cannot applaud criticism from those who are apathetic themselves, I am helping do Fringe stuff this year, not reggae gigs or prog rock but sports events so are you going to criticise me for just getting involved?
Come on you lazy so and so's at least make a sensible suggestion as to what entertainment you might like.
re the youthy, sounds like it might be saved as a venue,.....hopefully
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 3:57am Fri 21 Mar 08
Chocolate starfish, Thank you for the thoughtful comment, may I make it clear that I do not mean to use the term middle class as an insult. I myself am middle-class and like you Mr. Starfish, I am proud of it. Mr. Morgan however seems to find it an insult, as much as Mr. Price find criticism of the Fringe unacceptable.
I also did not call the Fringe “smelly hippies.”
Posted by: Boudumoon, Malvern, UK on 11:33am Fri 21 Mar 08
I think the 'lazy' tag could be applied to plenty of folk in Malvern.

We are non of us blameless.

We are lazy in that we let the Con Club drift away and we are lazily sitting round as MYC looks to go the same way. We are lazy because we seem content with a few well meaning (smelly or otherwise) hippies lazily putting on what they they know will bring in the lazy crowds. We are lazy because we don't realise that we could be a a powerful political force within this town if only we could get off our arses and mobilise - I cite the example of Mr Price and the Belle Vue Two.

But we are probably too lazy and therefore cannot blame anyone but ourselves if our children end up bemoaning the fact that 'there's nothing to do'.

We get the Fringe, and the Town we deserve.

The West Fest has shown how successful events can be managed and while it may not be everyone's cup of tea, it has (along with the Lamb) moved the cultural centre of the town decisively Westward.

Is it not time to stub out the joint and do something about it ?
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 12:06pm Fri 21 Mar 08
I nver called them said smelly.
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 5:12pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Sorry, (I typed that too fast.)
I meant to say, I never called them "smelly".
The Fringe are probably not smelly. Although they may look like it, from a distance, but probably don't smell, maybe a little incense aroma, but not a dirty type stink. I apologize. Im the smellier and more middle class.
Posted by: chocolate starfish, malvern on 5:51pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Well this is the bestist fun I have ever witnessed in a Malvern Gazette blog. I am so happy I stumbled upon it.
The comments from Hornyold Rd started off making a point with some constructive criticism but it seem that he/she has totally lost the plot completely, maybe a little pre easter sauce involved.
Boudumoon is coming up with the good stuff while. Totally spot on about the West Fest.. Steve Price (tree saviour) has all but given up to repetitive replies and is backing in to a sports corner. Little has been heard from other Fringers apart from a short comment from Owen who demand the identity of “off the wall,” blogger hornyold rd. Maybe he wants to duff him up. I hope so.
Lets keep this blogg going.
Personally I would love to see the Fringe put on a gay and lesbian night at least once a month for the towns gay community. It has never happened yet and would help a small minority feel a little more welcome in Malvern. I also believe it would be a great success and bring in some pink pound for the struggling Fringe. Maybe a parade through town, just like a small Rio carnival with floats plus hundreds of people on bicycles in fancy dress and also some kicking pop music played really loud. I also think the OAP’s of the town would like this so it would also benefit other’s.
Posted by: Castro Spendlove, Gt Malvern on 11:07pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Come off it Choccy Starfish, you know very well that gay and lesbian night is every Wednesday evening at the Cross Keys, Belmont Road.

No trainers. ROAR.

Community indeed.
Posted by: chocolate starfish, malvern on 7:11pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Ive been to theat pub, its not a gay pub. Its full of hard men. Real Man.. who would bash me up for suggesting they play the music of the Pet Shop Boys....
Do any brothers or sisters know of a pub in the Malvern area that welcomes gay's and lesbians?
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 7:30pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Most pubs in malvern welcome qays but may I suggest The Nags head because it has just won pub of the year. They should be putting on a gay night soon I would imagine.
The Fringe have never put on a gay night yet.. but thats because they are working class. Why dont you ask Steve Price to organize something for you. I thought your ideas wonderfull.. if not a bit mad. But you are correct the O.A.P.s (and I don't mean the Fringe,) would love it.
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 8:16pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Mr spendlove and mr starfish.. a quote from the wonderful MFT's website
ince then, Malvern Theatres has built on its reputation for attracting the biggest names and the finest drama. In 1999 Richard Dreyfuss and Charlton Heston both performed in the Festival Theatre and in 2000 theatregoers have saw Leslie Nielsen and Donald Sutherland tread the boards. The drama festival too continued that year as The Royal National Theatre opened their new production of Hamlet with Simon Russell Beale in Malvern prior to an international tour and Sir Derek Jacobi headed an all-star cast in God Only Knows, a new play by Hugh Whitemore.
Posted by: chocolate starfish, malvern on 8:22pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Yes yes, Darling, I have enjoyed each and every one. Except Charlie Heston, I thought he was dead.
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 8:27pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I dont think he is, but hey!! he's gun nut.
We dont need any more guns in this world.. do we????
Posted by: chocolate starfish, malvern on 8:40pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Look like we are the only people in Malvern who can talk, hornyold.
How about we meet up???
Posted by: hornyold rd, malvern on 2:12pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Never in a million years.
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